You will be proud and pleased to read the history of Chamar. Another example is where there was intermarriage breaching marriage rule..Where this took place they were also outcasted and often sought refuge with the outcastes including chamars. Kakade. People who dont have knowledge of Shastra or veda is not a pundit. Which is jatav. so that atleast sandhu should be in image of jatt in eye and list of obc sc st category. Baba ji deep singh ji was a sandhu. Well said mate! HALF THOSE LAST NAMES WIL ALWAYS BE JATT LAST NAMES AND YOU GUYS ARE NOT JATT. Science can now verify the truth. gotam budha father raja sudhodhan was from sakya caste n mother was daughter of koli raja .rajas/ rajputs can be from any caste koli , kunbi, jat, mala, jala ,hindu, mugal n so on when two fight one wins while other looses has to do the job the winner raja wishes as suryavansi raja was in services of kaluram dom/ chandal It was only a few decades ago that YOUR jatt sikh ancestors were beating and killing chamars for entering your sikh temples. Chamars dont have anything to be proud of. Me a film writer-director and author of booksbelong to chamar caste of uttar pradeshi am proud to be a ravidasiya, I ASHISH BERVA BIRTH 07.07.1989 FROM KATKUT(M.P) MY CONTECT NO.9926263097, I AM SATISH BERVA I BLONG FOR M.P AT KATKUT MY CAST IS CHAMAR IN BERVA MY BORNE 7 JULAI 1992 AT INDORE MY CONTECT NO.9669926653, add those gatram you dumbass hav forget =, Dalit di gotram = dhillon gill dalilwale padda randhawa (tonk kastrya) . 5 Kler, Please add few more as Punia, Daroch, Atwal, Nalwati, Chunbuk, Chahal, Chalia, Berwal, Bodwal, Tanwar. its like forcibly pushing sandhu to general category and all other enjoying sc status. anyone asking caste can be replied politely that u r nt hindu and dot believe in caste which is man made . Budhist hone k karan sab kuch china gaya atyachar sosan apmanit huye. We were in the front line as and when the the nation was in trouble. Likewise in China and Japan this system no longer exists and they have been able to develop fast. I do not think you read the comment by the illuminated properly. Samsung LN52B750For individuals who loathe Samsungs red Touch involving Color, the Samsung LN52B750 is actually a stylish solution, with a small tint with translucent blue in the bottom of a frame. It was Baba Sangat Singh a chamar, who exchanged his own clothes with Guru Govinds and allowed Guru Govind Singh to escape and live so that he could continue his mission. Every caste was busy oppressing the lower one. Plz add Rao, Soann, Chouhan, Dahiya, Sanpat, Basanpal, Saroya, Bal in the list. yes,my mummy last name summan,please adding. So be careful what you say my friend you are dealing with a whole new breed of martial chamars. Sad to see this still goes on in a world full of problems; at times Im ashamed of being Indian, who are samplay ??? gotra of father is gotra of son MOST OF GOTRAS R SAME IRRESPECTIVE JOB DUTIES PERFORMED WHETHER FARMING , TEACHING ,HUNTING , FISHING ,FIGHTING,TRADING OR ELSE . our caste is only known about brave soldiers. It is Ramgharia surname. Lion shaped jambu dweep broken into indonatia,maasia,mamyar,banla desh,pakistan,afganistan etc and focing convertions of sudra/vais to budhism,jainism,islam.shikhism etc and akshtriy seed finishing completely that too 21 times n declaring accordingly. The problem with these chamaars is that they are fucking ignorant, backward, dirty and hypocrites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hotkar.kharatmol.sadafule. Bruuuuah! Since all other people proudly tell their casts then i find no reason to hide my own cast. Account No. IGP Bureucracy jammu PHQ (IPS) shri gareeb das kaith, Better and more honesty I have rarely encountered. Unfortunately a majority of Indians dont think like me.. Thats why India will never take a step forward on being equal! I respect your views , why did you use fucking om with that . There is no room for brahminvad in Sikhism. include, jatt chamar ek dusre ke bhai bhai hai inko alag mat kro, dhania,ranga,johal,dahiya,gahlot,mahandirata,mehndi,muwaal, these all peoples are belong chamar plz add. So many Jutt surnames and even Rajput n Brahmin surname ? Ambedkarism represents democracy, secularism, human rights, freedom, liberty, equality, brotherhood of man, antithesis of Brahminism. It is surprising that followers of Sikhism feel proud to add their caste to their name. You ignorant woman! Take SANDHU out of this publishing cause its not good. Bibe. Most of these communities still practize ADi Dharam. can u tell me plzz Kamboj is in which caste inclunding. You stupid fuck sidhus are landlords Bhutti are kshatriyas. Other rivers which exist today were either non existent or not mentioned as they merge into these major seven rivers. kalson, Please add BARGUJJAR,TONDON,MUNDA/MUNDE My friends are from all different backgrounds. Sawkare. Im proud of being Sikh, our gurus fought for equality and eradicating caste system. JAI HIND..JAI CHAMAAR. but here we cannot hide bravery of mazabi sikhs and some others. kya koi bol sakta he sc sab ko satate nhi ? As The illuminated said above there are some organization which focus on eliminating caste discrimination in West Midland area. Its not like Jatts are stopping other castes from being proud of what they are. When I tell them I am not a hindu or Sikh , they say , you must be low caste. Youre not getting what Im saying, I dont think Im better or superior than anyone cause of my caste. etc.. My ancestors would be disgusted if they saw all these egotistical songs and even my family in India that do work hard in farms seven days a week and have the right to use the word Jatt. 92. Id like to hear more, if you do not mind, We should only judge people according to their actions (Karma). In current scenario the most of the power is distributed among sc st obc Now tell me who is corrupt logically. There are no specific gods, no specific way of worship . Yes! [34] In 2011, several politicians demanded that it be revived.[35]. I need to find the kula deivata asap. We need to move into a modern world and put these man made traditionsor whatever you call them to bed. SC for them because chamar is superior at all. I am an 3D Artist in New Delhi and Belonging to Rohtak, Haryana. Sharma ji . Sorry to mention caste but sometimes its only way to get through to people. We are all human beings that should learn how to respect one another. And we know what to teach our children thats why people like aforementioned creatures arent born in our caste, they are born in yours. !par oo metto matlab poshda siii jera ki metto answer ni de hoea !!!! There are a lot of Majra or a Majara villages in Punjab named after agricultural workers .It was only after Baba Banda Singh Bahadur who destroyed Sirhind that land titles were given to the tillers . Religious practices and taboos differ from region to region and caste to caste. It is very unfortunate that people from reserved caste now treat reservation as a trump card and neglect studies. Then they pretend to be different from Hindus and I strongly believe those who say so they are Muslims and defying name of Great Gurus. So you will see a Sikh doing sewa and keeping the shoes of incomign sangat in gurudwara or washing the utensils in gurudwara. it has nothing to do with one caste.. you can blame the system which didnt work for Dalits but always worked for Indo Aryans who divided them selves in 4 castes and Dalit or SC were never part of it.. they were considered out caste and never considered even Hindus or allowed to enter the temples. I mean think about it my punjabi sikh mates tell me that today ramghriya Sikhs work on the fields and most jaats work in the steel and iron industry lol.and if a jaat brags about his caste tell him that jaats were just peasants and they didnt even belong in the vedic system and we shouldnt be proud of our castes because we didnt choose them! The only way chamars can have the same last name is through mixing, or simple enough, changing them it trick people. Then, what would say ??? If the officers were produced without using reservation system Then only 1 can be proud of that caste. I know you wont do it but I want you to remove all the Jatt last names posted. Any caste based discrimination that take place in the UK should be reported to as many organisations and persons as possible. 0081001500006681 Bains I ll be really thankful if u ll answer my query..plz make it fast its really urgent ..please, yes,NAR is a sub caste of chamars. Why? bhatti : This was an attempt to change the mindset.Hence starting from guru Nanak ji by the time of Guru Angad Dev ji it became essential for a person to sit in langar (as a token that he believes in equality of all) before having an audience with Guru himself. YES CHURAS AND CHAMARS ARE MOVING UP IN THE WORLD TOO.HOOORAY FOR YOU GUYS:), yo im a sahota 2 *snap* nd plus sahota, sandhu are JATT so u fukin get ur facts right, Bhatoa (Bhatia), Bishanpal, Maan, Guru, Mitterpal, Gill, Badhan, Ghera, Thanda, Bhauria, par parah mereya . Meri jaat kamini paat kamini osha janam hamara !! As a Sikh this is all useless to me but Im sure as Hindu which I believe you are, there is nothing wrong you believing in surname and caste. we belong to most emerging caste .chamar produced i.a.s.,i.p.s. kaya baat kahi hai saurav bahi hum inko dikha denge, my also royal chamar my name is Honey Nimbhoira, Hey! Isnt it better to change ourselves still staying in the guidance of our Bhagats, Gurus and GGSJ.. Im am proud of being jatt because we join sikhi when it need us we love guru because they are warrior and peaceful save us from becoming Muslim. If the sikh is higher caste than than jatt they feel bad is kshatri, who looks down on the jatts as nothing but a peasant, if it is lower caste he feels superior. Some examples of prevailign mindset are : Born of the feet of Brahma, if a shudra speaks harshly to Brahmin, Kshatriya or Vaish, the king should get his tongue cut. I think every caste should proud of their history. Many of the Hindus who became Sikhs were from the Dalit caste. He is not really a sikh like you and me but but a hindu who parades himself as a charlalan sikh. one time stand infront of mirror and ask yourself u r a jatt or chamaar or etc. Summan surname is also a jatt surname. Castism in Indian society is a hard fact and we have to live within it. I urge all Chamars to take Amrit, it is the only way we will wholly be accepted not just by Jatts, but by society as a whole. But please conduct research thoroughly before making such claims. NORTH surnames is also comes in this community mainly in Malwa belt (Ludhiana Lalton kalan village ), Phone My stepmother is a maan and she is from Ramghriya tribe. For other castes: we are not against any body. Jindgi ki asli udan abhi baki hai, Only jatts think like that which is why are despised by virtually all other sikhs from other castes. If Bhagat Ravidas Ji was here today he would be angry upset that people have made a religion on his name. PUNB0008100 any one breaking rule to be out casted . Jai Guru Dev . In addition to the above other reasons for names cutting across castes are: 1. Remember, it is man made. Jatav Ekta jinda bad. The Sikh Chamar are Hindus who converted to Sikhism under the teaching of the Ten Gurus who lived from 1469 to 1708. khobra is also gotra of chamars in haryana. WHY? As the name goes ADI means at the origin and Dharam means relligion. im sure ur parents too hav it. So they took to names like chauhan Rana Minhas and many others. I say to all Indians- wake up you are in the 21st century, get rid of backwardness.Imagine India without caste. Also for the morons that are going to say my friend/relative who is a chamar is *insert jatt last name. This is happening in my village, there are many cases and you find CHOOREY CHAMAARS not cleaning the toilets but breeding like rats with higher caste piples. This is entirely your own choice but please believe that this will not encourage sikhs like myself and others to jump on the bandwagon. And it does not necessarily lead to increase in corruption because when Scheduled officers are appointed they often are not connected to their political masters or higher officers, who are often from the higher castes often either Brahmins,kshatriya or Viasha; and thus if they were corrupt they have no higher person to protect them. but overall average they considered hard worker, brave and open hearted . Out of 100 the first talented person is Dr. B. R. Ambedkar. I do not understand your point. We are all gods children and everyone is equal. up. so search about yourself and proud on yourself. plz, make me clear, ram kumar bhai je ma pani nepal kai hu temi malai friend request pathau na mero facebook ID:nabin_gims@yahoo.com. Bhind and Chhatarpur districts. The Kumhars are a Northern Indian ethnic tribe that inhabits the Punjab, also related to Brahma god. Chamar Community Excellent organization and unity. Also most ancient name of India was SAPTSINDU. Jai Hind. Treat people how you expect to be treated. 0081001500006681 But then the truth will overpower you and will see. ULLU KE PATHE TUJHE JYADA PTA HAI KI BO KAISE RHTE HAI YAA NHI . The Pasis worked as lathail or stick wielders for the "Upper Caste" landlords and the later had compelled them in past to unite many a times. Aur agar kisi bhai ko jankari chahiye to mujhe contact kr skta hai on my personal no. This is the basics you should know and understand. Plenty of charlatan sikhs like you about. My mom said keshav is your surname and i search everywhere about this surname . If you have any comments, please discuss them appropriately here. Cham-E-Aar caste came into existence only in Mughal Islamic rulers time in India. They should rectify their own position before giving public judgement. Its sad to see what mankind created for the sole purpose of greed. But Indias maximum media does not show or publish this news. If the poor Brahmins of landless takhurs or labouring baniyas feel disenfrachised of power I think I will feel sorry for them and also throw bread crumbs of reservation at them. All these selfless services /Sewa are to have a mindset of treating all as equal irrespective of his social status based on money , caste , race etc. Jai Guru Ravidas Ji. The mainly weakness belonging to the PN50A760 will be connectivity, since it again lacks a good PC input or possibly a USB slit.Samsung HL61A750This Samsung HDTV will not offer as numerous innovative features because rest, but the application certainly provides in whatever counts probably the most image quality. :- , - PLEASE HELP. Caste is just another form of racism! I m gurpreet singh katnor. Dont worry about these Brahmins they are the biggest pussies on the planet, one slap and its a knock out. Please add bibyan, saroha/sirohi, rathi, dahiya, patlaan. here we understand father is same chandal half brahman is lower to khatri who is half akshtriya that is wrong since in hindu akshtriya is lower to brahman . u may not have created this. C Parvathamma. [22], After the decline of the RPI in the 1970s, the Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP) attracted Chamar voter base. Hardly anybody says anything caste based in the uk. Cast should be eradicate. Thank you , Lun meri di cast a . Over the last 5000 years these 15% have had RESERVATION over all power structures and kept the shudras oppressed into servitude in perpetuity. Anyway I hope the caste system eventually becomes obsolete in India as all it does is stop the development of India. Gurav. singh is used by hindus also . The king chastised Vishnu for reciting the Vedas, an act forbidden for a Shudra. are all Brahmin last names. u wash ur chitter in the fields with ur bare hands, without washing them, then eat ur roti! If youre going to have any pride it should be about what you achieve yourself. From Tere bahan ka yar, Ek khuddar Chamar. Generally Sikh Tarkhans. mausmarti mother brahman+father sudra= issue chandal , mother brahman + father sudra= issue khatri . It is available on weekly ajit published from Missisugga canada. When we die, we with take nothing with us, so why be so egoistic? thanx. include. Ahirwar, Mandrah, Waxer, Minote, Pahade, Baghel, Choukhe, Piple, Chouria. AND STOP BRINGING SIKHISM INTO THIS, cant Jatts be from other religions dumbass? Do your research and see how brahminism is cruel and evil devised by your ancesters for the benefit of brahmins but made against the rest of the population. it will help all the chamar family of haryana to tell their caste to other with proud and other casts respects the chamar community. What more do you expect if you deny generation after generation the right to educate themselves? Read further sc st obc caste list in gujarat pdf and general caste. but here we cannot hide bravery of mazabi sikhs and some others. Bhardwaj,Atri brahmin okstealing our ancestor name. ), please add jassi gotra u allready add jassy but jassi jathere in pind kultham phagwara. The Zamindari abolition and Communist upsurge in Bihar gave rise to a tug of war between upper and the lower caste. education provide equal platform to all the people. The Jatavs are an endogamous caste of the Chamar, or leather worker, category of castes in India.Because of the polluting occupation of leather worker they rank among the Untouchable castes close to the bottom of India's caste hierarchy. 8, S: 270), If a shudra calls people from other castes harshly then put an eight inch long hot iron rod in his mouth. Sikhism teaches that there is no caste system. Please add Surnames such as: 4.Chahal i am confused. YOU WILL ALL BURN IN HELL AGAIN, WAIT AND SEE. I am a Marathi chambhar 1 powerful caste of world. Please contribute to this website to improve the quality and allow for it to expand and grow. Hi, I am looking for a chamar girl for my brother, 28years old. I have known a chamar pretending to be a Sandhu.A small conversation and it all came out as expected.Another chamar,very educated due to the reservation system always made friends with Jats or Brahmins.Next thing you know he puts Sharma on the end of his name.He began to believe his own hype until he tried to get married in a hindu mandhir.So the same here.To repeat Johal,Sahota,Sandhu,Virk are all Jat names no question.No shared with anybody else.If Jats are secure in their own identityit does not mean they look down on anybody else.Its not our job to buoy chamars up.Its the Indian govt who trod on you.Its the hindu religion who tarred you.Leave Jats and Sikhism out of your gripe. If he see himself as a jatt then he is endorsing the caste system; yet if he is Sikh he must reject the caste. Ohhhhhh you silly chumars!
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