So Michael follows with the question. You don't know what's going on. Residents believe cougars still roam New Hampshire's forests Patrick Tate: So it's interesting it's brought up. And you know it's rather interesting because certainly there are those you as a case of mistaken identity or they wanted to see something that perhaps they actually didn't. Why do people keep seeing mountain lions (which aren't here) but not Course like Sue said you have to see it and it's not always that visible. So that's the specimen that you find going long distances. I saw the tail end of a literally from behind the shoulder The Long Tail mountain lion crossing the highway going from Password to often Village downtown. Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? Pelosi story here we go. OK. Rick van de Poll: Rick and I would add that if a mountain lion male takes up residence and successfully finds a female as pets there's gonna be a lot more evidence there will be like deer carcasses up in trees and territorial marking and claw marks and tracks and it you know dispersal is gonna be very tough to see or observed but residential parrots a totally different story. Patrick Tate: It's wow interesting that you brought this up because I've had people report I saw cardamom. We'll push great photos to the front page. Despite numerous reports, the NH Fish and Game Department continues to have no physical evidence of mountain lion presence in the state. On a dirt road. However if if and when it does happen it takes up a lot of resources looking at that situation and identifying what's going on because when you start out you don't know it's a hoax. Caller: Oh yeah. And I saw you cat about four feet long from nose to tail come across from the water across the road and just leap over a six foot perimeter fence in a single bound. We'll be right back. Which brings us to the next question, what are the odds that some of these reported sightings (which, when I posted about this on twitter, I immediately started to get as well) are actually people seeing a mountain lion? And so so with their limited staff and limited budget that is that is more and more limited every year because you know fewer people are buying hunting and fishing licenses. Sam Evans-Brown: You know the North America had a number of large predator species when humans first arrived in the continent. Your support makes this news available to everyone. Sam Evans-Brown: Well first I want to sort of explain why what the theory is but then also throw a bit of cold water on it because I don't think there's much much logic behind it but essentially is that if fish and game were to acknowledge that there was a population of Mount lions in the state there's a chance that something like a listing under the federal Endangered Species Act might happen and then there'd be you know some they'd have to put a plan in place to protect the species there'd be you know restrictions put on development. And still the the folks there did weren't able to come up with it with 100 percent certainty what deposited that scat. But but I've also seen it cited the opposite way that look they're very secretive. So. The 17-year-old Kiger mustang mare was born in Bend, Oregon, said Hodskins, who got her . Someone's got to see one they're very secretive. And really whenever you hear tiny code and long rope like tale it's kind of hard to pin this sighting on any other creature rather than an outline or just nothing else really matches that description. The big cat has been extinct here since the mid-1800s. The term is because mascots notwithstanding right that they're referred to with a lot of different terms and sometimes they can be confused with a lot of different terms. Sunny today high temperatures low to mid 80s it'll be clear tonight overnight lows in the 50s for tomorrow sunshine with high temperatures mid to upper 80s. Mountain Lion Population (In Each U.S. State) - Wildlife Informer On Oct. 10, he gave a slide talk called "Wild Cats of New Hampshire," which included the bobcat and the lynx. Which goes back to the Connecticut Connecticut cat and what not. Patrick Tate: So the individuals can say that but for an agency that's based on science and what not to to go off with no evidence and then get into that giant debate and all these other issues and put credibility at risk I don't think that would be a great path to take. SUE Morse naturalist and science director for the organization keeping track. Patrick Tate: So I'm not sure what subspecies of cat they're using to differentiate by those markings but once she was describing the White other face in the black. They just end up in these places. Well let's talk a little bit about that. What gets confusing is when you have a large adult animal and a smaller juvenile animal of a different species you can now step start beginning talking about overlapping body weights and sizes. John is calling from Bennington. If youd like to submit a question (or send a mountain line photo) you can record it as a voice memo on your smart phone and send it tooustidein@nhpr.org, OR call our hotline, 1-844-GO-OTTER (1-844-466-8837) and leave a message. Peter Biello: And Carl before you continue I think Patrick Tate just give me a second. So for me as a person who's had the Bobcats right off my grits similar carries sticks to a bobcat The Long Tail obviously very different but those facial markings were overlapping for me. But before I go any further I want to say we do not have sufficient game. She was having a garden party on her back porch and everybody in the party saw this mountain lion across the field down below the porch. A monthly donation of $5 makes a real difference. And they used to be this whole list of the different subspecies of mountain lion and it has since been reduced to just to the North American and the South American. Mountain lions can be found throughout Arizona, and data suggests the populations are not only stable, but growing. I came to a stop and it was and I've seen a lot of bobcats in my time and I just came to a stop it was just sort of confused about what I was seeing. The states never denied mountain lions are here, and theyve never admitted mountain lions are here. I've actually had to walk in on one or two now and look at what was going on and figured out what was going on. As recently as 2011 there was one young male mountain lion that cruised all the way from the black hills of South Dakota, up over the Great Lakes, down through New Yorkgetting spotted all along the waykilled a beaver near the Quabbin Reservoir in Central Massachusetts, left behind prints and DNA at that site, and then was hit by a car in Connecticut. Mike thanks for your call. Why are there so many false positives? Like why would you want one wildlife. Peter Biello: Hmm. Patrick Tate: No downward pressure at all I think actually Sean turned up and we found the evidence there a number of people would finally say finally we can put this debate to bed. NHPR is nonprofit and independent. DNA from scat or from fur, a clear track that is confirmed by an expert, or a photo that clearly shows a mountain lion. This is not the same as saying that there has never been a mountain lion seen in New Hampshire. But you've done some reporting on this. I didn't see him online. John thanks. Patrick Tate: It became a very interesting investigation over time because it started becoming. New Hampshire's Mountain Lions | NH Wildlife Think you've seen a mountain lion. For starters, part of the confusion might come from the fact that the eastern cougar was taken off the endangered species list earlier this year. About two years ago I was at the Laconia airport on the way home from the airport and there's a big lake on one side called Lily Pond. It's not an emerging endangered species no work no there are there are populations in specific states so the Florida panther is is an endangered species that sub population is in fact listed under the Endangered Species Act. Windham Life and Times - November 15, 2019 Have you heard stories do you have questions about the mountain line. There is some information that suggests that it spent a portion of its time in Massachusetts near the Claiborne reservoir. That's why we always go back to the physical evidence to support what they're reporting. And Rick van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England. So it is possible to see male Mountain lions roam into the northeast - there was one hit by a car in CT a number of years back - but we don't have a breeding population of Mountain lions in New England. Join as a $8 per month sustainer and get our brand-new owl umbrella! Support for an age PR comes from you our listeners. Patrick Tate: So Cougar Mountain Lion katama. But on the other side of that coin there is this sense that there have been so many sightings locally and you guys Patrick you might recall the name the Wyndham McCracken she kind of turned herself into a local authority off authorities the right word but she was very dedicated to this. Peter Biello: So Rick seems like you agree that the tail is a big giveaway whether or not it's a mountain lion Absolutely. So you know until I found those two scats I didn't think that mountain lions were here in the east. 10 things to do in NH this weekend: Dartmouth Dance, Hamilton De Holanda & more, Turkish restaurant in the Upper Valley aims to help those affected by recent earthquakes, RFK Jr. tells NH crowd hes considering a presidential run, Epping woman pleads guilty to threatening Michigan election official in 2020. Information that weed family automotive dot com sunny for today high temperatures low to mid 80s clear tonight overnight lows in the 50s tomorrow sunny highs in the upper 80s. How many mountain lions are in New Hampshire? - AnswersAll They absolutely do. OK. Long before NASA was asked to put a man on the moon one engineer had already figured out how to get there. If you go on YouTube and search mount lion Pat you can see people patent their hundred pound kiddie like its regular mascot cat. And today we're talking about the mysterious elusive mountain line with folks who know something about it. Administrative Links. But no proof was offered. Patrick Tate: Yeah yeah. It's good to talk to you. Rick van de Poll: Well the mountain lion of course has been sort of an enigma in the wildlife suite for years and years. Sam. Mountain lions don't usually travel more than 100 miles from where they are born. We actually have the largest subspecies of bobcat in the northern part of our state which they can get up to 40 and over 40 pounds which looks like an 80 pound the animal to visually and quite large. People were calling the New Hampshire Fish and Game director's office saying why are you dragging your feet on this. But I do think that it's appropriate that a fishing game agency would recognize verifiable proof if they could. Patrick Tate: Well I've never seen an Easter cougar so I can't say when I've handled these 10 cougars and whatnot.
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