. Progressive Baptist Church, a century-old historically Black congregation, was briefly part of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC). The theory came up in a controversial resolution that passed at the SBCs 2019 annual meeting, when Greear was elected. Photo courtesy of Progressive Baptist Church. He announced in June that he will give his last sermon on January 8, 2023. I think that there is a place in the body of Christ for large and small churches alike; I have been a member of both at various points in my walk with Christ, and can speak to the benefits and challenges of both. Before his call to Progressive, he served as an apprentice pastor at New Zion Baptist Church in Rockford, Illinois, and as a pastor at Salem Baptist Church in Chicago. This was why I felt it safe to forge an alliance. While I do not know much about Charlie Dates, it has becoming increasingly true that the higher you rise the harder you fall.. RELATED: Southern Baptist seminary presidents nix critical race theory. Progressive was once, decades ago, the kind of leading force of churches on the South Side. Charlie Dates is the senior pastor of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago and serves on the board of TCP. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. Im working to discern Gods direction as it relates to timing of when to conclude. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. The congregation has grown into one of the largest black churches in the city. Our city and our nation need the black church to be her best and brightest self and now is the time for churches to be strong," he said. Charlie E. Dates was presented to the church in February 2011. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Charlie Dates is set to succeed Rev. The statementposted on the anniversary of the 13th amendment abolishing slaverycalled for collective repentance and criticized those who would downplay SBCs racial history or label others as critical race theorists for acknowledging systemic injustices. Im still surprised Charlie Dates wasnt forced to step down after he publicly used a racial slur against Virgil Walker on social media last year. How will your role there look different? Not able to make? Dr. Charlie Dates became the youngest senior pastor at Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago in 2011 at age 30 and in January 2023, he became the senior pastor of the Salem Baptist Church of Chicago. While I do not know much about Charlie Dates, it has becoming increasingly true that the higher you rise the harder you fall. And God has blessed us with our own son as the churchs next pastor. Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago | Chicago IL Return to homepage. The hard reality of the seminary presidents statement is that Black people will never gain full equality in the Southern Baptist Convention. I want to be clear though, Im not saying Im the only Timothy he has, in the same way that Paul had others. Photo courtesy of Progressive Baptist Church. Comment below and let us know where you're watching fr. And if you have a testimony of the amazing things God is doing in your life through our ministry, please email it to info@progressivechicago.org. Rev. And the same for Salem, which might still have it. I returned to our Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago with a bit of sophomoric optimism. James Meeks next year as senior pastor of Salem Baptist Churchone of Chicagos biggest megachurches. Both of them have produced some stalwart Christian leaders and teachers. Dates explained he saw rejecting CRT as part of a continuing heritage of dangerous conservatism.. We need new opportunities. Charlie has also led Progressive in being a very put faith into action church here in the Chicago Black community. View Charlie Dates' profile on LinkedIn, the world's largest professional community. Here it was, I thought, further proof that the old SBC was fading. Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago, under the leadership of Charlie E. Dates, is a. We haveI thinka very Paul and Timothy kind of relationship. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? Join thousands of others to get the FREEDOM POST newsletter for free, sent twice a week from The Christian Post. Preachers and teachers are there to instruct and shape us much like secular, academic teachers/professors. Book your appointment here. For questions or to reach his office, please email booking@progressivechicago.org. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Chicago has rich Black churches throughout the South and West sides, in particular. And how have you begun planning to deal with those challenges? Not because of a sermon I heard from a distance or book that I read.. I am on assignment to lead the church forward in Chicago. Rev. That is exactly what I am objecting to though the fact that there is no way he can minister to 11,000 people in the way that he ministered to you. But some have grown frustrated with their position in a denomination that remains largely white (African Americans make up just 6 percent of Southern Baptists, according to Pew Research Center). He is married to Kirstie Dates and is the proud father of their children, Charlie Edward Dates II & Claire Dates. We need new ideas. Weve got to be able to have our 12 stones from our Chicago Jordan River, with a keen eye on the hills and mountains of Jericho and the other cities in Canaan. James Meeks announced Sunday that Pastor Charlie Dates of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago will succeed him as leader of the 10,000-member Salem Baptist Church of Chicago when he steps out of the role in January 2023. "It's time for Salem to move forward. He graduated with a PhD in historical theology from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. Pastor Dates challenged me in how I was handling my grief, noted my verbal and body language pointed to some unrighteous anger and unforgiveness that I needed to confront in order to move forward in a Godly manner, gave me scriptures to pray and meditate on, and concluded by praying with me and having his wife Kirstie follow up with me. Rev. The young pastor said he had to convince his members that joining the denomination for the sake of mission partnerships would be a good move. I also want to suggest that Chicago, and America, needs churches that are developing and reproducing young pastors, that we become more intentional about it. Senior Pastor at Progressive Baptist Church - Chicago . His wife Kirstie also followed up to pray with me and further encourage me. Are there things at Progressive you will have to step away from? I ADORE Charlie Dates. After the neighborhood went dry, Walmart opened a store. But the bones are good. Martin L. King Jr. On the eve of the 50th anniversary of his assassination, it was as if they had come to reckon with the ghosts of their past and the theological underpinnings that ignored his ministry. Susan Robinson is a 100-year-old Black woman and lifelong member of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, where I am senior . Have you ever dreamed of owning a home, but don't know where to begin? Their stand against racism rings hollow when in their next breath they reject theories that have been helpful in framing the problem of racism, he wrote, disappointed that the presidents would come together to speak out against it rather than turning their criticism toward other ills such a racism itself. Dates's 100-year-old congregation only began affiliating with the SBC last year, joining as a dual affiliate with the Progressive National Baptist Convention, a mainline, African American. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". Help keep The Christian Post free for everyone by making a one-time donation today. Some worry that a systemic view of racism, where a person is considered privileged or disadvantaged in society because of their race, conflicts with Christian beliefs about forgiveness or people holding equal value before God. Dr. Charlie Dates is widely invited to preach at churches, conferences and universities throughout the United States. If you have legal questions, attorneys will be available to help you at the legal clinic. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. That is a concerning statement. Charlie Dates and Ralph D. West spoke out in response to a controversial statement released by seminary presidents. To invite Dr. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. "It's Alright to Cry"| Pastor Charlie Dates | Progressive Chicago by Pastor Charlie Dates. He continued his education with a Master of Divinity and a PhD in Historical Theology from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield, Illinois. When I came to Progressive, it took me a while to actually get my feet under me because of some of the history and nature of the church, and it required a lot of patience and long-suffering initially. Meeks, who is now 65 and served three terms as a state senator, told his congregation that he will preach his final sermon on Jan. 8, 2023, just five days before the church's 38th anniversary. Charlie Dates preaching at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in 2017. To enjoy our website, you'll need to enable JavaScript in your web browser. We want to walk with you and your family in every step of the way. Its been anchored in the community. Part of what Im learning and discerning about Gods direction for ones life is to pay close attention to the bend of ones spiritual biography. Well, the Stewardship Ministry at ProgressiveChicago is excited to partner with The YWCA and Liberty Bank to offer a 6 hour in-person or virtual homebuyer's workshop. Dr. How has he influenced you? I dont even know what sort of issue Dates had with whoever (again, Im rarely on social media), but even I can spot your bias here. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. We need a new vision. Both Meeks and Dates also have a connection to the Moody Bible Institute. Calling him "the greatest young preacher in our nation today," Rev. Meeks, a former state senator, founded Salem Baptist 38 years ago. Who thinks a half a pastor can shepherd a full church adequately? But we can actually press into the current culture and lead our young people and train them to lead a revolution for the kingdom and the glory of God. Meeks, a former state senator, founded Salem Baptist 38 years ago. The two pastors brought up recognizing the reality of systemic racism alongside the truth and authority of Scripture. Learn more. By clicking Accept All, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. Woke Wars infiltrate Christian colleges, prof under fire for racial justice unit, Southern Baptists oust Rick Warrens Saddleback Church for naming a female pastor, Professor Joeckel on why his contract, teachings on racial justice are under review, Copyright 2020, Religion News Service. Before his call to Progressive, he served as an apprentice pastor at New Zion Baptist Church in Rockford, Illinois, and as a pastor at Salem Baptist Church in Chicago. Its time for Salem to move forward, he told his congregants. Ill be here every Sunday and through the week as I normally am, Dates said. It actually makes me think of Moses, who was advised on how to make leading the growing number of Israelites more manageable by placing them into groups and delegating. I think part of this is connected to what attracted me to Salem Baptist. He's trained to fight the giants that we're dealing with today. I imagine they provide cover for the SBC leadership to further alienate Black and brown Christians who do not ascribe to their heritage of dangerous conservatism. I think thats a blessing, especially when I see a lot of superficial relationships between pastors and their flock. Every church that lives in the past is already anchoring itself in the graveyard of history. I dont know if Id recommend this to anybody. Its one thing to adore someone you dont have any personal relationship with. Dates to speak at your next event, please complete the Speaker Request form. On one hand, Progressive is what I would call progressively traditional, and Salem is traditionally progressive. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. What lessons or advice has he already passed along about leading Salem Baptist? Children are a gift from God. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". That is absolutely a legitimate human need but I just dont see it as within the job description of a servant-leader of men in the Epistles. To choose a successor Meeks says he and his wife, First Lady Jamell Meeks, prayed and fasted. Your daily news briefing from the editors of CT: After Chaos and Crisis, Beth Moore Still Finds Refuge in the Church, Christian Conservationists Sue to Protect Ghana Forest, I Was the Proverbial, Drug-Fueled Rock and Roller, Everything Everywhere All at Once and the Beautiful Mystery of Gods Silence. We meet every second Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 9:00 am. Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Ill tell you: abolition, the womens suffrage movement, the civil rights movement, a Black U.S. president who was initially against partial-birth abortion, non-white male faculty at their seminaries and now a theory that uncovers our nations de jure and de facto segregation. Sarah Einselen is an award-winning writer and editor based in Texas. Progressive is a church of five generations. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. And if you think it feels good, warm and fuzzy to be confronted about your sin when youre in the middle of grief, you are VERY mistaken. In all that, he can never be criticized within his ranks. (I cant imagine having NEVER met your pastor one-on-one). He is a contributing author to Letters To A Birmingham Jail and Say It: Celebrating Expository Preaching in the African American Tradition, and is currently working on his first single-authored book on Christianity and Social Justice. I had to fight all of my flesh not to just walk away. Do you have a birthday or anniversary next month? How do Salem Baptist and Progressive Baptist compare, and what makes you a fit for both congregations at this moment? He has a bachelor of arts degree in speech communication and rhetoric from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign; a master of divinity degree and a Ph.D. from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield, Illinois. Dates, 41, is a graduate of Salem's now-closed Salem Christian Academy. Its time for a young generation to come forward with new challenges facing us.. If Charlie Dates indeed used a racial slur (just last year), that does call into fitness his ability to do any of the above. Rev. Its evangelism, its benevolence, its disciple-making have all been very Christo-centric and rooted in the Scriptures. - Charlie Dates, pastor of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, a church aligned with the Progressive National Baptist Convention, a mostly Black denomination, and also with the Illinois Baptist State Association, which is an SBC affiliate. He opposed the legalization of gay marriage,called for a boycott over funding disparities at Chicago Public Schools, and once served as spiritual adviser to disgraced R&B singer R. Kelly. Meeks has been activeand sometimes controversialin the community. In his June 19 sermon, he told congregants hes retiring as of January 15, 2023, and the Rev. I adore Charlie Dates BECAUSE of how he and his wife PERSONALLY ministered to me when I needed it. Its a sensitive time for both congregations, and I want to convey as they read this my love for both of them. No. Dates, 41, graduated from Salems now-shuttered Christian Academy. What other things do you want to highlight to your current and future congregations and the readers of CT? If that is YOUR definition of ministering to someone (because that is the language I used, and you jumped to that conclusion), YOU need to revisit it. Great! We are partnering with The Chicago Partnership to present this opportunity to the South Side! A graduate of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and adjunct at Baylor Universitys Truett Theological Seminary, West said he planned to withdraw from his current doctoral studies at Southwestern and will not associate with the SBC any longer. My response to the above is that that kind of filling of your personal needs, i.e. Welcome to the weekly podcast of Progressive Baptist Church with Pastor and Author, Dr. Charlie Dates. Its the same approach that created President Donald Trump, that makes sure that no Republican leader will challenge him publicly. When did the theological architects of American slavery develop the moral character to tell the church how it should discuss and discern racism? Dr. Charlie Dates will take his place. To learn more about how you can begin or deepen a relationship with Jesus Christ, visit us at ProgressiveChicago.org . . One of the benefits at Progressive is that the operations of the church and systems and structures of the church, the day-to-day operations, are free to move independent of me. Who thinks a half a pastor can shepherd a full church adequately?. Yeah thats in bad form. 3658 SOUTH WENTWORTH AVENUE, CHICAGO, IL, 60609, 773-268-6048 | INFO@PROGRESSIVECHICAGO.ORG. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. Meeks' retirement comes at a time when many longtime church leaders have been transitioning out of leadership as they contend with dwindling attendance and other ministry upheavals laid bare by the COVID-19 pandemic. I just hate to see us automatically dismiss a pastor, church or ministry due to size. 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"We believe now that the time has come for us to step aside, for us to yield to new younger leadership," Meeks said. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. Galatians 5: 13-14 | Pastor David Swanson, Pastor Charlie Dates | Progressive Chicago. Pastor Charlie Dates speaks at Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago. Yesterday, Charlie Dates, the Senior Pastor at Chicago's Progressive Baptist Church, gave a powerful biblical message addressing the recent killings of Auhmad Aubrey, Breonna Taylor, and George Floyd. Progressive got insulated at one point. James Meeks faltered for just a moment at the end. Again, amen to that. We want to see younger families come to our church and the last thing that we want is to stand in the way of that.". Meeks recalls meeting Dates when Dates was in the 5th grade. With teary eyes, I just told them I hope that they accept my recommendation when that time comes. Rev. The beauty of this narrative is that the Lord, in his kindness and his grace, has taken pastors and churches to develop me. "I sense God performing a work of His Spirit that connects Salem to churches that need revitalization. What is liberalism to the conservative Southern Baptists? I had to tell my church I was wrong. To them, a belief in a high view of Scripture must mean an adaptation of Republican politics and, with it, the dismissal of critical race theory and intersectionality because of a fear of liberalism. That said, our church has just as high a view (if not higher) of Scripture as any SBC church, but theirs is an inconsistent epistemology. Dr. Charlie Dates is widely invited to preach at churches, conferences and universities throughout the United States. 99% of these megachurch icons and celebrities were nowhere near as righteous as Smith to start with, and only continue to deteriorate from that starting point, with time and fame. Everybody loves our old, respected leaders but I want to set an example that its okay to give the next generation an opportunity, Meeks adds. Charlie Edward Dates became the youngest Senior Pastor in Progressive's rich 95-year history. When I came back home to Southwestern, I even encouraged other ministers to do the same. . Who will pay for the SBCs abuse reforms over the long term? To invite Dr. The leaders of two majority-black megachurches in major cities announced this week that they will no longer affiliate with the Southern Baptist Convention. The pastor of Progressive at the time, his name was Reverend T. Brown, he was such a dynamic leader in the city that he was able to tell [former Chicago mayor] Richard J. Daley, No. And live to tell about it. What kind of repentance did he show and how has he made amends? Conservatism is, and has always been, the god of the SBC. If I can help these churches recognize Gods hand in their past as a kind of indication of God, of what God wants to do in the future, then I think I can hand it off to the next generation in good fashion. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Perspective by Charlie Dates. Your daily news briefing from the editors of CT: Southern Baptist Convention Disfellowships Saddleback Church, Christian Conservationists Sue to Protect Ghana Forest, Everything Everywhere All at Once and the Beautiful Mystery of Gods Silence. We want to see our church grow. In 2011, at age 30, Rev. In a video message to Progressive, Dates said the two churches will stay distinct, though hell pastor them both. I do pray Pastor Dates is not spread too thin and that he has the support needed to lead such a large flock effectively. But the church left in 2020 after SBC leaders rejected critical race theory en masse. Our PBC Teens are highly engaged in biblical teaching and discussion on how to navigate a Christian life amongst their peers. I dont need to be Einstein to understand that with all these jobs he is not truly doing any of them full time. I need to say that this is not an ambition of mine. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". Raised on the southside of Chicago, he came of age having welcomed Christ into his life early. CT interviewed him about the history of the two congregations and his call to lead Salem Baptist. Its one thing to adore someone you dont have any personal relationship with. SERVICE TIME 9:30 AM CST Watch Live "It's Alright to Cry"| Pastor Charlie Dates | Progressive Chicago Watch on Latest Sermon I go where God leads me not Charlie Dates. Legal Clinic The Social Justice Ministry is here to help through our Gospel Justice Center Legal Clinic. I also understand how a personal relationship strengthens that love; that is the importance of us having relationships in the body of Christ. Adoring sounds like its crossed the line into idolatrysomething a lot of these guys at bare minimum do nothing to discourage, and a few outright seek. 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Dubois, Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, and Mary Mcloud - Bethune, Dr. Charlies orientation and early formation were significantly bent toward the theological reflection of Black people. How did they, who in 2020 still dont have a single Black denominational entity head, reject once and for all a theory that helps to frame the real race problems we face? He was elected in March by an overwhelming majority, the largest vote received by any pastor in Progressive's rich history. And I think we can develop a platform, a pipeline to invite those who feel that burden of call to grow them and to release them to do that," he added. I dont idolize Pastor Dates, nor is he my everything. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! But there is nothing wrong with loving those who I do have personal relationships with, and have really left an impact on my faith, family, and heart. Both have spoken at Moodys annual Founders Week conferences. The church actually changed the face of that community, he says. . You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. In January 2023, Reverend Dates became the Senior Pastor of the Salem Baptist Church of Chicago. Shes ready to work. Theres just no way you can pastor a church that big being involved in all of the details, right? But in this instance, youre actually bothered (I guess Uncle Ruckus is what crosses your line, but not sons of b*ches or a**holes) AND questioning Charlie Datess salvation? Charlie Dates Has Led Progressive Baptist To choose a successor Meeks says he and his wife, First Lady Jamell Meeks, prayed and fasted. Not because of a sermon I heard from a distance or book that I read. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. He and his wife, Kirstie, have two children. His decision came two days after West made a similar argument in a Baptist Standard op-ed. However, you may visit "Cookie Settings" to provide a controlled consent. Theres a danger when the person idolized has a position of power and authority, particularly in a religious sense. September 3, 2021 at 1:54 p.m. EDT. The average member was around before Charlie (hes been there ~10 years) and knows hes not the only one who can lead them. So we decided to cooperate and join our church to the SBC in what is known as a dual affiliation. It was the first time to my knowledge that white evangelicals had celebrated in concert the life, memory and work of the Rev. That philosophy has weakened whatever prophetic potential the SBC has. This workshop will cover everything from home buying basics to the most important step, funding and loan process. You've read 0 of 5 of todays most popular posts. Nationally known pastor Rev. Please click here to learn how. While West says he cannot offer a full affirmation of the theory, he does not see it as incompatible with the gospel. I completely understand your concern, Tricia. To start, Dates will keep his current post as senior pastor at Progressive Baptist Church, a 15-minute drive from the House of Hope arena where Salem Baptist meets. Blessed to serve in the city in which he was born, Reverend Dr. Charlie E. Dates is Chicago through and through. I will admit to knowing very little about Charlie Dates, but what Gus Chiggins posted is extremely concerning. In 1998, Meeks led a push to close 26 liquor stores in a 19-block radius near Salem.
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