The physical signs seem good, but Im still afraid. Know Your Japanese Brands: Miura | MyGolfSpy Stay away from Golf Leadingthey are fakes from China!!!! What is the standard length? hello? We are here to help educate and empower golfers. Should I stay away or what are some question that I could ask to make sure he is legit? Starting around 2013 they started using a laser to add serial numbers to their drivers, fairway woods, hybrids, and Scotty Cameron putters. That is the same price on some of the fake sites like golfwholesale18 and golfbargainoffers. The serial number is much larger on the counterfeit. What does this mean? They didnt try to hide the fact that they are in China. I receive the clubs in a few days. https://www.ebay.com/itm/155100568154?nma=true&si=FKPXmduLxHWeUm2mAA1sp4qnT9w%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557. Some early clues, if you really need them. If a site is genuine and has bothered to pay the money to get their site a security certificate the logo they put on the website front page will be a link to the certificate provider. However you can make amends. Check the club weight, swing weight, shaft length, decals and paint work preferably aginats a known genuine club at a demo day or similar. ns5.store.yahoo.com I am sorry to say they got me for $250 for a R11 which was a fake. Its a ladies Adams 13 pc A3 OS. I now own 2 TaylorMade R9 farway woods for $68.50 that are almost identical to the authenic clubs, but I am still trying to shut the seller down. Country: China If I try to trace route their url I get stopped at secureserver.net which appears to be a proxy network to hide their real location. If a legit site theyll have a proper postal address I asked if they hold accounts for the approved purchased of golf clubs from the manufacturers of such brands as Titleist, Taylormade, Callaway, Cobra, Mizuno and Ping. Biggest customer is in United State of Ameraca; he 6ft 6in and 220lbs. Please think about it and dont order anything from oversea sell the golf club to America! It seems legit. http://www.myordergolf.com/index.php please add golfclubcheap website to list of china fake club companies. Any other question, please feel free to contact us. Thats a scam Craig no doubt about it. I am considering buying a driver from them. See below the respsone to an email I sent to shop of Golf. This post saved him a headache. Tech Street2: The clubs are shown on Taylormades website if you look under the Taylormade Japan. That could be why they dont have serial numbers. What would you like to know about Hireko RC? Classic blades made for purists, MB101 irons embody the Miura philosophy in both performance and appearance. Only the manufacturer is not Mizuno but a Chinese sweatshop. We did a random survey of 100 golf club listings on EBAY a couple months ago and our Golf Club Scam Alert System found that there was a high-probability that 24 of those listings were FAKES! I've always said when buying irons or anything golf related on eBay, go to DHGate first and look up to see if those irons are available on the site. Anyone have feedback on a site called Onlinegolfwholesaler.com? So I cancelled the dispute but adviced Paypal that they were selling fake Ping clubs. The fake, here, is on the left note how the number 9 denoting the loft is a slightly different font and how Callaway written on the side is less defined. Registrant Name: Brandgolfclubs I agree with some posters on here that you should just buy your clubs at a local retailer to be sure, but why should I spend an extra 300 bucks on something when I dont have to? Instead look at something they might have had to write themselves. Found OUT they charged me $1000 currently reported the scam and probably will go under dispute caseNEVER BUY golf sets onlinelesson learned hopefully nothing will happen and I hope pple will be aware and someone will shut that company down.Pissed. help me there is only one problem with your theory. Me13:25:08 cn, Administrative Contact: The sticker on the shaft said Assembled USA Head China n Shaft China. no He deleted his ad in the bst after telling him they were fake. They also said they regulate their prices according to the volume of products and that a lot of these prices will end at the end of April. Having read this forum and researching the site that I bought them at I cancelled the order yesterday via e-mail. Your locla Trading Standards would have advised you so and may have helped you further. RockBottomGolf.com offers a wide variety of name brand golf merchandise including Callaway, Mizuno, Adams, Wilson, Taylor Made, Nike, Tommy Armour, Ogio and more. Most of their negative eBay feedback are from buyers with less than 10 positive ratings, whining about shipping, while true complaints/grieviances are reconciliated. P.S. Postal Code : 606550. : We ship out our clubs from our oversea supplire directly, and the clubs are 100% real and brand new. United States 1-877-860-8624, Mizuno iron sets will have the serial number on the hosel of every iron. Hosel - absence of 'Cameron'. has anybody heard or used these before, only had a set sent x22s irons, they have sent ladies clubs by mistake, now will not ship back,not sure where they have come from, there mistake but not intrested in exchanging, possibly get a part refund not much, anybody has issues like this. I also do not understand and maybe mygolfspy can answer how these OEM can sell clubs with no serial numbers, are these still the same as off the shelf clubs or is just pot luck? Carlsbad, CA 92008 Were paying for sdvertising and PGA pros with all that club money!! Has anyone had any experience with this site? But, I would love to confirmation from Miura as to why the difference in the number font/angle. The clubs tested very well. Im sorry to tell you but I know this for a fact! Miura (13) Mizuno (241) Nickent Golf (0) Nike (45) Odyssey (15) Ping (314) PRGR (267) Roddio (29) RAM (0) Royal Collection (5) S - Z; . Many of the shafts will feel flimsy or not as stiff as the flex stated on the shaft. They removed serial numbers from authentic watches to eliminate the tracing of the product and sold them through internet storefronts that do not have the original retailers name. Has anyone had any trouble or ordered clubs from these sites in the past? Can anyone comfirm this? When they are $999 new? Help. Wish I had seen your article before doing so. Instead of it costing me the $465 I spent on the real one, it cost me a further $250 on the fake so $715 all up for the driver. For me what seems off is the MC-501 seems scrunched together and a slight different etching. where is your company based? So the offer of cheap gear on Ebay and the net is understandably attractive we all want th best gear!! I thought I had stumbled across the best golf club website in the world after putting the words golf clubs into my Google search engine followed by the words cheap, wholesale, discount, super cheap, rockbottom, bargain, really super cheap, really really super super cheap. On iron sets that are off the shelf, the serial number is on the 6 iron and on custom ordered sets, the serial number is on all irons. And this was all brought about due to fixed pricing by the manufacturer. I told them not to send them and that my wife will have my balls for breakfast if you send them. I like to purchase as muck as possible from the small local business. I get sale flyers from reputable dealers like TGW & Edwin Watts, etc. Contact elicited a crack sound, and a definite connect feel in the hands. Hi as anyone dealt with wholesalegolfcheap.com, I have tried contacting them but they a very vague and dont answer my question about there adress or phone number? They are praying on suckers who type into their Google search engine words like golf clubs, bargain, discount, wholesale, wharehouse, online, rockbottom, cheap, super cheap, extra super cheap, really extra super cheap.. You have got to be joking about golfonlinewholesale.com. So beware. clientTransferProhibited The enforcement and legal aspects of these companies intellectual property costs millions in U.S. taxpayer money, but that is how the profits of these companies are protected. All of our clubs are brand new, 100% from the original factory, with high quality and excellent performance. The more clubs they can get out on the market, means their brand has a larger market share. Im just looking for a good deal so could u give me a list of good uk based sites or if I bought from the states like hurrican golf would I have to pay import duty on them, Hi golf spy, And golf has now been engulfed by the issue. hum it sounds like a great deal but if i find these not to be equal quality can i get a full refund? What would you say is a reasonable price? They have really low prices and free shipping. Heres a tip, Go to the golf store and pay retail price. i am looking to buy an r11 off of this site and its only $259.. with free shipping. Their sale must be almost counterfeits goods. Cheers. Glad we could actually help. avoid the fakes, buy Adams Golf equipment. The cover and core are made from lower-quality materials, the cover is thicker, and as you can see, uneven. Before discovering this link I ordered a TaylorMade RBZ Stage2 driver from them. 2420 E Hennepin Ave Should I go directly to the credit card com pany or to PayPal. I was about to order from golfleading as the price of clubs appears really attractive. They always have some clearence items that I assume are outdated. However, my issue with all of these sellers is that they arent very good about checking specs on their used clubs and they ALWAYS overstate condition. I just checked those 2 sites out, and they have some excellent examples of what to look for that should throw some red flags for you. How about the critics go work for 3 US a day f that much, Hi i find this all interesting as i have just been had when i purchased a set of callaway x22 tour irons and have since found that they are fakes even the reg number was for the x20 series and not for the x22,when i registered the set with callaway the number was accepted onl because it related to the older series. The proof is that companies like Costco could probably double the product sales of a high-end club, but manufacturers would never sell to them because Costco would want to sell at a significant discount. We have Titlist, Tailormade, Pong, Cabra, Adums, Wilsan, Mazuno, Creveland and any brand you kan think ov. Wondered if a golf spy could comment on hireko golf. Email Search: is associated with about 10 domains Upload or insert images from URL. Why sell something three hundred dollars cheaper than everyone else, why not $100 less, or even $50?? Fax : 86-010-2994895-111 The reason to use a softer metal like 1018 is first and foremost to save money but to also allow it to be formed using an outdated or weakened forging press. If its fake item- fill a complain at eBay complain center- and Ull get your money back from the sellers or from Ebay. http://www.mygolfpurchase.com, prices are extremely cheap and the person you can talk to can barely speak english, suspect the clubs are fake so beware everyone! I see about 30 different website under many different name of business while same contact us and see Chicago. : Katsuhiro Miura strives to make the perfect golf club and has produced over 10 series which include putters, irons, and wedges. Counterfeit products are big business - fake Rolex watches, Gucci handbags and Prada shoes can be found easily worldwide. I say this because Ive bought from other eBay shops that simply toss the club in the box with no padding and ship it off (and they wonder why they get complaints about damaged clubs). To revive this thread i was wondering if anyone can give any input into this set that is listed locally. Must be a very big price mark-up on clubs if you can buy a counterfeit for 300 % cheaper. Since most of our golf equipment is made overseas, then buying American is not always 100% possible. Your post got my attention about the possibility of manufacturers making extra units for themselves and selling them for a way cheaper price. Do the right thing got to your local retailers, make comparisons, try out different models and be assured what you decide to buy will be the real deal. please never buy their clubs. However, cobra told me golfetail was legit and not to worry about any counterfeit products. Name Server: I hope they have some great holiday specials for I have several golfers in my family. These are the non-retailers that Ill buy from. Please rest assured to purchase from us. I hate to see you all type about so many different business names by the internet as you believe that price is cheaper or unsure if that company make the golf club from other country. Tech Phone Ext. Fantatastic Website and great comments, the problem is that it seems no one actually can verify that the clubs are from a legititmate OEM or not or just a company that possibly produces some part of the end product and uses the certification for evil purposes, (Not at least until its too late and your money has left the account).Im a very careful buyer, probably too careful but I do have an eye for a bargain and it seems to me that if your careful then you may be lucky. How do I know my Miura irons are authentic? Counterfeit Mizuno MX-700 Fairway Wood. This site has been mentioned in some of the comments above, but can anyone confirm that this is a genuine site and good to order from? ns4.ename.cn I saved the convos to use if they are fake. Great color on the heads and the inserts in the cavities really set em off. Do you know that they actually have Taylormade M2s in the store at 100 bucks ABOVE what you can buy them for straight from Taylormade!!!!!!! AND they even overpainted the shaft. And then compare pictures from both because that's the easiest way to find out. I uploaded more on a the other Thread here. One thing Ive not seen in the many postings here is the how these items were paid for. Registrant FAX: +86.85228691896 Thanks for the reply Schmidty. You would have to conclude the clubs must be either counterfeit or some kind of dodgy deal is being done through a side door. Has anyone ever done business with bobsbettergolf on ebay? The special toe-cut grind works in tandem with the design of the hosel to keep the CG nice and low. Anybody have information on this? Arrived promptly, managed to view and test the set. Province/State : WG But if you would like you can get me his info and e would be glad to contact him and see for you Scott. My 2nd Swing stuff looks awesome. I will return emails on Mon the 28th when I return to the office. Maybe the company does make them for Adams or who ever. I just sent another message requesting serial numbers. hey brendon, and is also protected by China and its international copyright laws. Notice the word China! Free shipping throughout the world, possibly even free to moon residents. GlobalGolf is a great place to find deals. (9000+ sells and 99.8% positive feedback). Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Miura 1957 putter in good condition at the best online prices at eBay! Wow makes you wonder if paying a little extra in a store is worth the peace of mind when buying a new club. ns2.ename.cn Tech City: yiwu Ive looked at their Ebay pages and policies etc and they clearly stand out against hobbiests or potential fake sellers I would take the punt. Admin FAX Ext. proshop jj located in new jersey united states. golfdiscounting golfdiscounting These tips will help a lot of people out who didnt know to look for these things. We will try to get our hands on some of the counterfiet gear. All three have the GENUINE stamp on the hosel. Running as we speak. Thanks again for the great customer service! Email : Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that their phone number is a Chinese phone number. Feel sad, very embaressed. They have no links to verified payment providers/certificates either, and no geographical contact address. I thought it sounded to good to be true. As a GolfWRX reader, you know how much a custom fit club can work for you over something bought off the shelf. I have spoken with Callaway who have said that they cost them more than that to make. There will also be a tiny 2D barcode next to the serial number. Admin Organization: Brandgolfclubs I was looking at buying some titleist ap2 irons from this website, but like everyone else, am questioning the sites authenticity. Seems too good to be true for TaylorMade gear ! US I have just come across this thread after seeing a number of obviously fake or quite suspicious websites out there selling clubs. But it seems like those should have already been registered. Verry cheeep, Did you get any feedback on this? (24% of the club we surveyed were fake). Knock off a supplier and another will take its place as long as demand is there. Thats when I started researching fake sites. I also read quite a few good reviews about the company. View the source code of the page. There are two sellers selling the same clubs, only a few dollars apart and their pages seem VERY similar. Bad for us in the long run. Has anyone used golfwholesale18.com? Anybody ever heard of this people? At this point, my friend purchased it and got it within seven days. if someone can also advise on duty etc that might be charged apart from what i pay, it will be a huge help. When can you find the best deals in golf equipment? Is this golf wholesale site a legitimate site in the United States or is it a scam or maybe some place selling counterfeit clubs? our clubs are with the same material,same quality with the clubs made in Muzuno factory :), Thanks, I recueved the wedges and were superb quality and fast shipping, site is reccomended, Guys are you sure those clubs are guenuine ? NOOOOOO! Basically, if it is too good to be true, it is. I love the feel of them over any Mizuno, which to me are still 'buttery' sweet, but OTOH Miuras have a solid feel that is lacking in Mizunos. Well the big OEMs will tell youthe benefits and rewards (profitsgo figure) are just much larger then the risk of someone knocking off their club. Heads-up. We cancelled the order and the credit card we used. (my friend has g10 irons and they are twins we could not tell they were fake!!!) I still havent received them. Admin Postal Code: 322000 You say you have purchased thousands of items from Rockbottom. Im worried about this, Hi.. interesting subject here.. Tech Postal Code: 322000 wondering what you know about a site selling cheap golf clubs at golfsetaus. Due to weather and work, I havent been able to take em out to the range or course yet. Expires on..: Thu, Aug 22, 2013 This is when a new model is launched the quality retailers heavily discount the out going model. I agree that the internet is loaded with counterfeits, but disagree that the size of the problem is around 14%. In fact, dont worry about giving me a total amount for it all just now, heres my credit card number 4455 3243 2323 2323 exp 10/15, mastercard. Cheap, cheap, cheap. We carefully hand-select every clubs to make sure that our customers will receive the best golf clubs. The Big Dog ~ EXS 220| AD DI 6x I feel fairly confident that the clubs he is selling are legitimate because I asked for a custom order and he was able to oblige I also asked if the clubs could be drop shipped directly from the manufacturer here in the United States and he said yes they could. Sole - the weights not sitting flush or fitting as they should. No reply yet, however dont know how much weight an affirmative answer will hold. A friend put it on his scale to check swing weight (should have been D3) and it was so heavy it was off the scale. Frank what is the website address and I will let you know if we have any additional info on them. As an example, Titleist and Mizuno normally use a longer ferrule, but almost all the ferrules on counterfeit irons are shorter. Butand this is a big butthey can make up to $10,000 for stealing an original design by an OEMwhich is a huge motive when you consider the fact that it is more than they make in 5 years! Does anyone know about greatsalegolf.com. Hot Launch is game-improvement sets for the player wanting to lower their handicap. Registrant Street1: 112-114 Des Voeux Road,Central,HongKong GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Tuesday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, By Golfskydiscount,Inc. TL;DR, Dont cry for the golf companies; protecting their profits costs U.S. jobs and taxpayer money. I have been looking at Mizuno clubs from proshopjj, and was suspicious enough to go find this site while I pondered my decision. Ever heard of a website called topgolfmall.com; gosh, I wish Id read these comments before I ordered from these guys! And that is a new trick for them to use old serial numbers. Branding and lofts will be in a slightly different location on the club head. Counterfeit Project X Shaft with a much brighter color of blue and a holographic sticker below the shaft band. Enough said. Young man that started the company went to Purdue University and was a fraternity brother of a friend of mines son. Almost everyone has to abide by the same prices. I decided to investigate a bit and came across your VERY helpful information. The previous information has been obtained either directly from the registrant or a registrar of the domain name other than Network Solutions. So we are able to provide such competitive price. I have received literally thousands of items from RBG and have absolutely no doubt they are legitimate and reliable. We sell best golf clubs at very cheap price ahem, if you think this site is written and and produced by people in America, wrong. They are the best clubs of anyone on my team( im a varsity golfer in hs). cheers. has anyone ever purchased anything off http://www.taylormadebrand.com ? Golf Stix, Inc. These guys just go too far. Hey Nash have you recived your clubs yet are the genuine ? Counterfeit Mizuno MX-700 Fairway Cover. itaintpretty has about 15,000 feedback w/ 99% positive feedback. I 20:21:51 However, the club was obviously too heavy. I wish we could buy American made equipment, but that new Taylor Made driver you want? your clubs will ship from the manufacturer BTW, Buying a Scotty Cameron at $120, I did that too and the club arrived from China as I expected. Admin FAX: +86.85228691896 Copyright 2023. Can anyone confirm that Igolftimes are legit and provide authentic clubs. Has anyone used Golf Stock Online (golfstockonline.com), they have a very good price on Callaway X-24 irons. I assume the Miura heads on DHGate and AliExpress are fake, and it seems like discussions here suggest that is so. We are seeing an increase in these counterfeit clubs coming into the U.S. Do you think any would notice that the clubs might not be 100 percent genuine? I would recommend people to after trying out other clubs to search for a second hand version due to the great price difference and definite legitimacy. taylormade tp. you should be able to click on it if it were legitimate. I have no reason to believe this club is a clone or counterfeit, especially given the amazing distance Im getting off the tee with it. In a frank reply, Rockbottomgolf said they do not. Regards. Is rock bottom golf a good site for cheap golf clubs. I went to Golf Galaxy and compared mine to theirs and they could not even tell them apart. It seemed to good to be true so I started doing a little homework. Cheap, cheap, cheap. Not familiar with him although by just looking it looks legitbut follow the list in the article to be absolutely sure. Sunny13:25:57 My last shot here is that if the OEMs were serious about fighting this problem, they would offer COMPETITIVE prices on used equipment that have been condition rated correctly. 2180 Rutherford Road This is a very poor quality counterfeit. It has been up since 1999. But wait, theres more. After seeing the great deals they had, I got suspicious and brought the Scotty into the local pro shop. Oh my goodness! Anybody done business with tincup_golfstore on e-bay. The thin top-line of the club gives it a very clean feel at address. Province: Zhejiang Has anyone ever done business with these people? I would NOT buy anything from them. My clubs havent arrived yet but based on this site and my buying experience, I am confident I made a good purchase. They look similar to the set I posted here. Whois History: 27 records have been archived since 2008-01-14. Great forum just wish i had researched a bit more before falling for a set of Callaways from Topgolfmall for AUD1650. Status: clientTransferProhibited, Expiration Date: 2011-04-07 Part-Time. Is he cheaing? I asked him what website he ordered? They appear to opearte out of kingswood golf and country club in surrey and seem to be a registered seller with taylormade. Miura is happy to constantly improve and make the best irons there are. No we havent been eating bird seed. Anybody purchase from this ebayer? They gave me a credit after I emailed the seller and told him the club was available and ready for shipper of his choice to pick up. Cheers! Handicap 19.4 February 2019 - Tried a buddies Miura CB-1008 set at our local Simulator club. http://locator.callawaygolf.com/global/en-us/callaway/callaway-authorized-online-retailers.html, anybody heard about luckygolf18.com? MyGolfSpy, Inc. All Rights Reserved. I recently purchased a Taylor Made 2008 Burner rescue club on ebay from golfetail. Are the clubs fake? Me 09:55:43 using the stuff i read on this page, i feel relatively comfortable these clubs are legit. That should be updated every day if they are legit, and it shows on both sites Tested 12-Sept. Golfetail was where I bought them, I won an auction for a little over $300. 5 new Miura irons tested and reviewed | ClubTest 2022 - Golf It read exactly as follows:- Hi I have recently found the titelist AP2 iron set that i bought from WOWgolf clubs, now http://www.cheapgolfforsale.com/ to be fake. http://www.golfrealdeal.com. The MC-501 (Muscle Cavity) combines the playability of a blade with the forgiveness of a cavity back. Im being told that I can purchase overstock golf clubs made by Titleist. If I am not mistaken, the initial R( fairway woods were stell and they are getting ready to put a titanium fairway wood. golfdiscounting Do they meet the criteria of the other posts on here? If the Clubs are fake they have to refund your money since its illegal to sell fake clubs. Outlaw Golf Association Member #7, Congrats! after seeing this site im concerned about the authenticity. They also sell other Miura clubs super cheap. The IC-601 continues Miura's effort to make inroads in the high-end U.S. club market, which has been notably occupied by PXG . Throughout the site you can see very poor grammer and use of the English language as we speak is not quite right. 5 Testers Needed! I think some of these clubs are starting to make their way into retailers as used clubs. they arrived 3 days later with the plastic wrap still on the heads in separate boxes. I didnt get a ridiculous price but saved a couple hundred which of course I put to good use at a local shop on a used driver. Greetings, I was generally thinking that I wanted to find the best price on them, but that less than 50% of MSRP was a red flag. I live in the Netherlands and I want to buy a set of irons (Callaway X-22 ) on the following websites: The counterfeits I have seen all have them on all clubs and all sets are the same number. Without limiting the foregoing, Golfskydiscount,Inc. Tech Phone Ext. i would like to know any thing about a site i think they are fake? Other than that that these were very good counterfeits with only very mimimal differences from the genuine Ping clubs.
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